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Windows fixed into a plastic surround?

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Hi, I thought i bought a rubber mounted window but alas it arrived and it is plastic, to be precise it is an ldv slinging locking window, quite large. so can anyone advise me how to secure it in, its quite big will glue and sealant really work? its one of these :http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110854688445?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
so the frame is larger than the window on the outside, but on the inside its just the size of the window- so i can push it in the opening but what holds it there? Unlike a rubber mount there is nothing to fit around the van wall and hold it there, and there are no holes for screws so i don't think that is the intention.. Any advice would be great! Its a fibreglass luton box too so slightly more complicated- i'm making a frame to go on the inside so that the walls thicker.
cheers,
Nicole

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It looks like it might glue

It looks like it might glue in, if it has a big lip on it, which it looks like it might have.
Does the seller make any recommendations about fixing it to the van?

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Yes it is pretty wide at the

Yes it is pretty wide at the front. He says people have just screwn it in through the plastic.. and that if i want i can buy a piece of flat rubber from him to act as a seal.. but i imagine i can just go and buy that somewhere, however i'm not sure i should use any as if i'm glueing it I imagine I need as much surface as possible to stick it to! any estimate on how watertight will it be if i simply glue it? I have windscreen silicone and araldite.. any good? Thanks for the advice, will post some pictures

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It should be OK to glue in.

It should be OK to glue in. Bonded windows are just glued in using special glass glue.
I would recommend Sikaflex 512 or 221. Get it in black and not white. Apply a good and even amount, and it will glue really well and seal the gap from the weather also.

Sikaflex is really strong. I have glued my solar panels into my roof with it.

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All of the extra windows i

All of the extra windows i have fitted to my van are bonded in with sikaflex. Do not take his advice and screw the windows in place as this will be the source for many leaks to come. If you can remove the plastic windows from the frame you will be able to clamp the frame in place whilst the sikaflex goes off. If not then straps around your van with some pieces of 4x2 on your window should give the compression you need whilst the sika goes off.

KS

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Sikaflex...X3

Sikaflex...X3

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Thanks for all the advice, I

Thanks for all the advice, I have bought the sikaflex and marked out the Windows and door, now just need the right disk for the angle grinder to cut the box frame, as I decided to leave it in for strength .. its been a pain as had to get alll the Celotex in behind it but hopefully worth it. My small boat Windows do screw in, any ideas how to prevent leaks?

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Cutting out the windows. Disc

Cutting out the windows. Disc wise make sure you get one of the plasma discs. They are almost wafer thin, no more than 1mm. They will slice through the metal like butter without introducing too much heat.
And don't forget to paint the cut edge too else it will rust later.
KS

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Make sure you use decent

Make sure you use decent screws or they will rust and then when it rains you will get horrible brown lines running down your bodywork, besides rusting around the screw holes.
Any proprietory sealant should be ok.
(Personally, Id bond them in and forget the screws).

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